7 Comments

• #1 by Vivian on February 8, 2018 - 8:19 pm

  

  I enjoyed watching the presentation, while simultaneously working on getting a few years of unpublished images registered before February 20th. Did I say thank you for the heads up on the change? Thank you!

• #2 by Jack and Ed on February 8, 2018 - 11:37 pm

  

  Thanks! Our pleasure Vivian. We had a great time and glad it got you going to register before the 20th.

• #3 by Derek on February 15, 2018 - 1:18 pm

  

  Jack and Ed, thanks for the informative Q & A.

  I had a question as a result of something that was mentioned. Ed made the point that we should be wary of online image search services that demand 1st right of refusal to pursue any discovered infringements.

  Given that almost all of the search services include this requirement for use of their service (with the exception of tineye, which itself is prohibitively expensive) how would you suggest staying on top of and discovering infringements without signing up with these services?

  Perhaps you know of and recommend some services that are affordable and don’t require 1st right of refusal? I was not able to find any except for tineye.com.

  Thanks, Derek

• #4 by Jack and Ed on February 15, 2018 - 1:34 pm

  

  Derek, Actually Ed and I are discussing this as Ed just sent me an article from someone who was signed with a small search only company which was then bought out by one of the large well known search and recovery companies that offer flowers and rainbows in their ad copy, but have serious clauses in their TOS you have to sign. Seems that if you use their search but not their recovery, but rather your lawyer or yourself privately, they will still bill you for their 50%. We’ll see if we can link to this 1st person account or post it.
  At this point, TinEye and Google seem to be the only free and unencumbered search services we know of. Of anyone knows of another free or low cost search service that doesn’t tie you to their recovery services, please let us know. More than happy to pass it on.

• #5 by Derek on February 21, 2018 - 8:43 pm

  

  Thanks, Jack. I appreciate it. A few months back I corresponded with the folks at Image Rights but their Terms of Service are incredibly, unbelievably skewed in their favor. So much so that after consulting an attorney friend of mine, I believe their terms would be characterized as a “contract of adhesion” and therefore be practically unenforceable in court. But who wants to take a chance on that, right?

  I had a much better experience with the folks at Pixsy and their terms read much more reasonably, which was reinforced by correspondences I had with them. They appeared much less imperious and predatory than Image Rights. But they too require one to agree to 1st right of refusal.

  Despite this I am seriously considering signing with them simply as the least bad option. Tineye is just way too expensive and manual google searches just not comprehensive enough I feel. Too easy to miss things. I figure, if they don’t handle an infringement case In a competent way, I can always disengage and re-assess my options. Not optimal but in my view the best available option at this time.

  Thanks,
  Derek

• #6 by bob on March 3, 2018 - 9:57 pm

  

  Is there a youtube video of this presentation like your two previous presnetations. I watched it and would like to share with my camera club.

  Thanks
  bob

• #7 by Jack and Ed on March 5, 2018 - 11:53 am

  

  Hi Bob,
  B&H will eventually post it on YouTube. Just don’t know when. And hopefully, they’ll edit out the first 4 minutes of dead leader time.
  Jack

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